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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 17, 2008 23:52:24 GMT -4
Please Inform Me When You Have Arrived.
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Post by Shade on Nov 18, 2008 17:28:57 GMT -4
We're doing this again?
Good, cuz it seemed to work pretty well last time when Randall came.
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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 18, 2008 22:43:07 GMT -4
This Will Be A Little Different.
Lol, I Told Him To Follow The Link On His Talk Page. 'Cept I Didn't Add The Link XD
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Post by Shade on Nov 18, 2008 22:48:00 GMT -4
Lol
So is he ever gonna come or not?
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Post by clarinethawk on Nov 18, 2008 22:51:05 GMT -4
Here. What.
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Post by Shade on Nov 18, 2008 22:53:12 GMT -4
Oh, you just missed him!
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Post by clarinethawk on Nov 18, 2008 22:54:12 GMT -4
Do you have any idea what this is about?
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Post by Shade on Nov 18, 2008 23:02:01 GMT -4
More than likely, he wanted you to come here in an attempt to reason with you. Y'know, try to see if you're willing to explain your point of view, and in turn he can explain his.
Idk why, but we're able to convey our thoughts much easier on this site as opposed to Smashwiki.
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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 18, 2008 23:19:50 GMT -4
I Can Convey My Thoughts Here More Easily Because I Don't Have To "Watch My Language" Like I Do On SmashWiki. Lolz, XD, I Like Your Pic HaHa.
Anyways, I'll Put Up A Big Convo About This Sometime Tomorrow Probably. I Don't Think I'll Be Heading Into Skool Risking Battery Charges.
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Post by clarinethawk on Nov 19, 2008 0:17:16 GMT -4
Am I supposed to take from that that this whatever you're going to post is going to piss me off? Because I don't like being pissed off.
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Post by Shade on Nov 19, 2008 18:28:13 GMT -4
Idk, maybe K is just more fluent when he can cuss? I doubt that if he's trying to make peace with you he'll intentionally get you mad.
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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 19, 2008 18:41:29 GMT -4
ooo, im so scared your gonna get mad. not.
and i am a lot more... understandable when i curse.
anyways, as i was saying...
im gonna make this simple, and not to long or complicated like i did with the whole rjm thing.
i don't like you. in fact, i think your the biggest dick to ever set foot in smashwiki. as far as im concerned, you don't even belong anywhere near smashwiki, LET ALONE have that kind of status on there. i would be happy if i never had to talk to you again. you have become nothing but a dick since mandy and i had a truce. its like there was a shortage of assholes there, and you overfilled that posistion. you and fnw, who is next on my list of people to come on over here.
however, in respect & favor of the wiki, how about we just... don't communicate there from here on out. im not saying you cant respond to a conversation on a talk page, im saying dont even try to talk of me, to me, about me, or of me when your on a user talk page. just stay away from me, and ill stay away from you, and then the wiki can have some peace (that is, when i fix rita's problem too)
sound good?
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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 19, 2008 19:28:56 GMT -4
wow. your clearly an even bigger dick then i thought.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 19, 2008 19:34:47 GMT -4
Well said.  |
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Post by Shade on Nov 19, 2008 21:30:31 GMT -4
im saying dont even try to talk of me, to me, about me, or of me when your on a user talk page Lol you said "of me" twice. wow. your clearly an even bigger dick then i thought. And I'm guessing he posted something and you removed the post. |
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 19, 2008 22:11:58 GMT -4
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Post by clarinethawk on Nov 19, 2008 22:40:24 GMT -4
How about, the post wasn't removed because it wasn't made.
I opposed KP for rollback, because he's nothing but a disruption on the wiki. Those kind of people don't get power. People who come off of legitimate blocks (every last one of them) don't get power for precisely the reason that they are a disruption, they breach policy, and thus they either (a) don't know the policy or (b) don't care about the policy, both of which are disqualifications for any sort of power whatsoever.
That's why he said I'm a bigger dick. What, were you honestly expecting me to say, "Sure, go ahead, you're an okay guy," when you clearly aren't?
I read your proposition. How about my counter-offer. You stop putting anything on the wiki, and we won't butt heads. I adhere to policy, and keep the thing running. If you're doing something wrong, I have to engage you on it. That's my job. If you don't want to run into me, don't do anything wrong. Sound good?
Also, in case you didn't notice, no one came to call for you after I banned you. In fact, the only thing I heard from other users was "thank you for banning him" and "and why wasn't his ban infinite."
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Post by Shade on Nov 19, 2008 23:20:36 GMT -4
Tbh, I didn't even know about the block. I hardly do any work on Smashwiki anymore, except clean up that AD article when they add unnecessary stuff.
But in all honesty, here's how it looks to a 3rd party person (K knows I don't take his side for the sake of friendship, I'll scold and anybody else on their screwups if they deserve it):
K usually does a lot of work as well as chatting on SW, but he did something against the rules, soCH banned him. K got mad for being banned and although he tried to work around the system by not directly PA-ing CH, others caught on and recognized the intended flames. Therefore, he was banned again. This made him even more mad.
K works hard, but does slip up and lose his cool with people that don't agree with him. I understand him being banned for sometime (not indefinitely), but in that same sense he does make up for his temper with all of the work he does on the wiki.
So yeah, Mr. Neutral Party (me) sees that keeping the ban temporary and then ceasing to contact each other unless ABSOLUTELY necessary, as well as trying to keep calm when such communication is necessary, is the best option.
Hopefully this'll all be over soon and there can be peace...but I guess FnW is gonna show up soon for even more drama like this... -_-"
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Post by clarinethawk on Nov 19, 2008 23:28:38 GMT -4
That's assuming that the best option is having him stay around. Let me tell you something. I'm not sure about that, and I can rattle off the names of a bunch of other prominent users who share similar feelings.
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Post by Shade on Nov 19, 2008 23:47:07 GMT -4
Well, y'know, it's just a suggestion. I'm trying to see if there's a way that both of you get what you want.
You get to keep K banned in hopes that he'll change AND an attempt promise to stay quiet to you and other users (so long as the message was intentionally negative, y'know). K gets the chance to change some, he still gets another chance to edit on SW again, and he doesn't have to receive warnings and punishments from you (provided he sticks to the rules).
So does this sound like a reasonable proposition?
Keep the ban on K so he can cool down (I might be able to help with that) but don't let it be indefinite so he can return and be 100% productive.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 20, 2008 0:55:16 GMT -4
But Shade, KP is cooled down. Did you see his calm and mature reaction to Shadowcrest's unecessary comment on his talk page? KP has proven that he's changed. Have you seen his edit count? It's bigger than C. Hawks! And C. Hawk is a Bueracrat! Sure KP might have scarred his chances, but he's a no BS kind of guy. He only flames when flamed at, or wrongly treated. You can't just go up to his talk page and say "Dood omigawd ur ghey" and then get away with it. He's not going to say "Cool it! I'm an admin wannabe!", he's going to tell that User/IP straight up to GTFO.
C. Hawk, wouldn't you react to someone who constantly calls you a bitch and makes fun of your intellect? Shade, you have mad arguing skillz, so you're good.
Now KP should be an admin fo sho, but he should start out slow with rollback first. Maybe he can show you, C. Hawk, that he's a good person, and you'll support his nomination.
Originally, I had thought C. Hawk had only ran against KP because of his youth, but now I see that isn't the case. As a Koopaling of the AD, I sincerely apologize for any inferences that we think you're out to get us. Some of us still see you as a bad person who has let power corrupt him, but I think you actually have a heart, seeing as to how you reverted vandalism on my page TWICE. As for FyreNWater, I hate her. She simply annoys me. She'll tell me to piss her off, I ask what's wrong, she flames, I flame, I get banned. What the hell?
But enough about Fyre (at least for the moment). I want to know what happened to you, C. Hawk. We thought you were a good guy, but now most of us see you the same way we saw Randall. And that's terrible.
C. Hawk, I'm not only backing up KP because we're tighter than African hair knots, I'm also doing it because he's really not the bad guy you think he is. You've got to give him a chance at this. You can't just run against him because he flamed once and was banned 4 times. I know I'm not running for rollback until I'm at least 19, but who knows. KP would've probably made the Wiki 100% perfect by then.
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Post by Masta Shake Ganon on Nov 20, 2008 1:42:48 GMT -4
the only thing i heard on other wiki's was "wow, that guy sounds like a total asshole" and "only bitches ban people instead of dealing with the issues"
dont hate me because your some mediocre clarinet player among billions of others.
and quite frankly, your way of dealing with vandals sucks. your so fuckin lazy you cant type up a warning? you have to put up a template that says it "might constitute vandalism". SHUT UP. IT WAS VANDALISM. BAN THEM.
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Post by Shade on Nov 20, 2008 17:32:09 GMT -4
^^^^
I rest my case.
Oh, and Blue? You don't have to retaliate when someone PA's you. I never do in rl. As a matter of fact, the only reason I did so against the AD was that it was so freakin fun to burn you guys.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 20, 2008 17:43:03 GMT -4
Burn? Nah rly? You gave us a point, without any burning. lol And we adhered it. If you wanna know what a real burn is, piss off KP. He'll literally make you feel it through the internet.  |
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Post by Shade on Nov 20, 2008 18:59:30 GMT -4
lol like the argument you two had back on GXD's boards? I've seen better. And I don't mean myself, I mean I've literally seen better.
Besides, I don't fear text. If he went to my school, that'd be different, but otherwise, I never cared what people said in an argument as far as insults go. The only thing that should really matter in an argument is that you try to prove your point of view to be correct or logical. And a lot of times not just one person wins such things.
Now if violence gets involved, that's out of my field. That's not an argument, that's a fight.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 20, 2008 23:23:12 GMT -4
Text is nothing to fear at all.
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Post by Shade on Nov 20, 2008 23:34:53 GMT -4
Yeah, I've gotten death threats from Blue before and I barely flinched.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 21, 2008 12:57:18 GMT -4
LOL As if I was really going to waste my time killing you and going to jail.  But srsly, my non-pathetic life is nothing to waste. lolz |
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Nov 21, 2008 12:59:11 GMT -4
I wouldn't kill you anyway. Now that we're friends, for one, and that you're a special person like me. BTW, KP burned this idiot named KirbyFan on the Kirby Wiki before. I don't think he's returned since... xD
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Post by Shade on Nov 21, 2008 17:34:33 GMT -4
IMO, KirbyFan takes the opinions of random anonymous internet names that speak far too seriously.
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But srsly, my non-pathetic life is nothing to waste. lolz