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Post by Shade on Dec 7, 2008 22:03:32 GMT -4
One AT? That's all you could come up with to support Ness's superiority? lol This'll be too easy.
Can Ness PK Thunderslide? Can he Zap Jump or Magnet Pull?
That's 2:1. Your turn!
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Dec 14, 2008 22:41:25 GMT -4
Well, here's my argument. - Lucas has slightly better air speed.
- Lucas's PSI magnet has better range than Ness', and even gets behind him. It also does damage. Ness has an embarassing "gust of wind". ¬_¬
- Lucas can use his rope snake as a tether recovery and has alot moar range than Ness.
- Lucas falls a tad faster as well, but that makes him slightly easier to juggle.
- Lucas' PK thunder is easier to control, making recovery alot easier. His Zap Jump also travels farther and faster than Ness'. Also, Lucas' PK thunder penetrates enemies, making it easier for him to recover for him than Ness. However, it can still be interrupted by another projectile.
- Plain fact right here; Lucas has stronger up and down smashes. His F-smash is weaker than Ness', but it can be executed faster and almost has the exact same amount of knockback.
- Lucas has two Meteor Smashes, both very effective compared to Ness' single spike.
- Lucas has better WaveBounce, and uses his PK fire in a cool way.
- PK freeze is faster and easier to control than PK flash.
That's Lucas. Here's Ness: - Ness can perform to aerials in one short hop. Very rare among characters.
- Ness can execute his spammy F-air alot quicker and can rack up damage with it quickly.
- Ness' F-smash has greater knockback and deals moar damage.
- I don't give a damn what MaskedMarth says, Ness is a little heavier than Lucas. This is barely noticable.
- Ness has a moar powerful B-air, and can KO at low percentages.
- Ness' B-throw is stronger than Lucas'. His up, forward, and down throws are weaker, though. ¬_¬
- Ness has a lower crouch. This makes it easier for him to dodge projectiles at high trajectory.
- Ness can make one prat fall by spamming his d-tilt, then score a KO with his F-smash if the opponents damage is high enough. Lucas' version is less effective.
- Ness' dash attack has less vertical knockback, but is good for racking up loads of damage. It also has better range and can interrupt laggy attacks.
- Ness can B-air dash.
Lucas has Ness in a strong-hold. The only other point is that Ness looks way cooler than Lucas. |
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Post by Shade on Dec 14, 2008 22:50:54 GMT -4
But Lucas looks like a Super Saiyan... How else can I counter some of your stuff? - Lucas's nair can be just as spammy as Ness's fair
- Lucas's bair is a SPIKE. That's automatically better than just a standard move
That's all I got... Oh, and he's got a pimpin ride and has a pet snake so therefore he fights for his friends. |
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Dec 15, 2008 1:56:17 GMT -4
Almost forgot. - Ness has a stronger U-air
- Ness has a stronger SPIKE/D-air
Oh, and you forgot that Lucas runs a bit faster. Ness also has a girl, Paula, and a karate dude, Poo. Ness' voice is less annoying too. If you'd like the following arguements to occur, plz ask me: Sonic vs. Snake Mario vs. Luigi Link vs. Toon Link Charizard vs. Boozuh Squirtle vs. The phailure rat (Pikachu) Meta Knight vs. Pit Ness is better than Lucas |
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Post by Shade on Dec 15, 2008 17:53:37 GMT -4
Lucas > Ness
Luigi > Mario
Toon Link = Link (different strengths and weaknesses)
Bowser > Charizard
Pikachu > Squirtle
MK > All other characters, including Pit
Snake > Sonic
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Dec 15, 2008 18:59:36 GMT -4
No. Ness > Lucas Link > Toon Link Sonic > Snake Mario > Luigi MK > just Pit Every lightweight in the game > Pikachu Charizard = Bowser (hey, when I chose my name, did you think I did it out of hatred of Boozuh?) HOWEVERLucas > Pikachu Pikachu > Jigglypuff Lucas > Toon Link Mario > Sonic Luigi > Lucas Bowser > THE KING Who gives a shit what tier placement they're in? ....sorry. I'll make it up to you. Skittles > every fruit flavored candy that has ever existed (no, srsly, Skittle for teh win) Shade > WHAT THE FU- *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM* Dammit... I can't find anyone you're better than, though there are alot. WAIT! I GOT IT! Shade > Ebon  |
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Post by Shade on Dec 15, 2008 21:35:09 GMT -4
WEEEEEELL...............
Shade is cooler than Ebon and he's the good guy. BUT! Ebon and Shade were once one, and in the even that caused them to split, Ebon held onto more power.
So, in terms of coolness... Shade > Ebon
In terms of pure power, Ebon > Shade
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Post by Shade on Dec 15, 2008 21:44:34 GMT -4
Oh, and let's take a look at your little vs thing...
Ness vs Lucas: Look, let's just drop it. You think Ness is better, I prefer Lucas.
Link vs Toon Link: That's a matter of preferences and opponents. Pretty equal, yet one does better in certain situations than the other.
Sonic vs Snake: wth why would you say Sonic is better? Snake's got more power, more range, more projectiles, and WAAAY more priority, not to mention some pretty fast attacks himself.
Mario vs Luigi: Luigi's got more kill moves, a higher jump, and better recovery.
MK vs anyone: Uh, hello? This is MK. a.k.a. Mr. President of the United Broken Characters Who People Say They Are Naturally Good as When in Reality EVERYONE Can Use Him Well.
Pikachu vs Squirtle: In Pokemon games, Pika >>> Squirtle. In Smash, Pika still > Squirty, but Squirtle does have SOME advantages I suppose. Pika's got better range, just as much speed, and projectiles, plus better recovery.
Charizard vs Bowser: Charizard is better. I take back what I said about the King of Koopas being better. Charizard has only slightly less power plus better recovery, more speed, and a glide.
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Post by Blue Ninjakoopa on Dec 15, 2008 22:18:02 GMT -4
Thanks for being so understanding.
I lurb you, Shade.
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